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yet another n00b checking in!

Post by WacKEDmaN » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:43 pm

ive been playing with arduinos for a year or so, ran out of IOs and found the STM32 Blue Pill! awesome little board..craps all over arduino!

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Re: yet another n00b checking in!

Post by mrburnette » Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:11 pm

Welcome.
And your need is why this group splintered from the Arduino.cc forum several years back... AVR limitation with the Official/Clone AVR products in the Arduino lineup. (... and limitations and cost of the Due board.)
You have a year under your belt, so you'll fit right in here ... you know the IDE, you know the terminology. Yes, STM32 chip architecture is much more complex, but the STM32duino core generally hides this complexity unless you need to eliminate wasted cycles and need to go the hardware - there are some examples of that, however.
Additionally, while the core was originally developed and published by Leaflabs and their original forum is still online for read-only:
http://forums.leaflabs.com/forums.leafl ... index.html
and the original documentation:
http://docs.leaflabs.com/docs.leaflabs.com/index.html
Leaflabs had compiled a JAVA version of the ArduinoIDE especially for the Maple and that was prior to the Arduino IDE re-architecture effort; essentially the core would not compile under the fast changing official IDE. Modifications were made to the bootloader and the core evolved and is still under limited evolution.

Have fun.

Ray

PS: I know the Blue Pill is a very popular and cheap Chinese board and many of the new users are coming in using that product exclusively. However, I would strongly recommend the purchase of a BAITE Maple Mini clone just for sanity testing issues.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/leaflab ... 67476.html
(you may be able to find the "Baite" a $1 less if you extend your search)

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Re: yet another n00b checking in!

Post by Lennyz1988 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:19 pm

mrburnette wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:11 pm

PS: I know the Blue Pill is a very popular and cheap Chinese board and many of the new users are coming in using that product exclusively. However, I would strongly recommend the purchase of a BAITE Maple Mini clone just for sanity testing issues.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/leaflab ... 67476.html
(you may be able to find the "Baite" a $1 less if you extend your search)
Could I give you some feedback?

Maybe it's even better to recommend this board:

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/STM32F10 ... eLevelAB=5

It can be bought preloaded with the STMDuino bootloader and it has a micro usb port instead of a mini usb port.

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Re: yet another n00b checking in!

Post by mrburnette » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:41 pm

Lennyz1988 wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:19 pm
mrburnette wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:11 pm

PS: I know the Blue Pill is a very popular and cheap Chinese board and many of the new users are coming in using that product exclusively. However, I would strongly recommend the purchase of a BAITE Maple Mini clone just for sanity testing issues.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/leaflab ... 67476.html
(you may be able to find the "Baite" a $1 less if you extend your search)
Could I give you some feedback?

Maybe it's even better to recommend this board:

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/STM32F10 ... eLevelAB=5

It can be bought preloaded with the STMDuino bootloader and it has a micro usb port instead of a mini usb port.
Yes, a nice board.
But the entire idea is to have a known-working board that matches the (older Maple Mini) documentation. The clone I referenced does that, button for button ;) About the only significant difference is that the BAITE board is 2-layer and the original Leaflabs' board was a 4-layer design.

Ray

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Re: yet another n00b checking in!

Post by stevestrong » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:44 pm

Lennyz1988 wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:19 pm
Maybe it's even better to recommend this board:
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/STM32F10 ... eLevelAB=5
It can be bought preloaded with the STMDuino bootloader and it has a micro usb port instead of a mini usb port.
This is known in the forum as the RobotDyn (black) version of the blue pill.
Not to confuse with the "black pill".

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Re: yet another n00b checking in!

Post by RogerClark » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:04 pm

Its interestng that that these boards are now available with the booloader prs-installed.

I did email RobotDyn and suggest this, but they are not very communative ( possibky because of the language barrier or for cultural reasons), and they did not send a follow uo email to let me know they actually now sell with the bootloader


I have 4 of their boards and they seem fine, but the crystals needed better fixing, and they failed to send jump links.

I complained about these issues and they said they were resolving the crystal issue and the next batch of PCBs would have solder pads for fiximg, so it would interesting to see if you have that revision

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Re: yet another n00b checking in!

Post by Lennyz1988 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:47 am

mrburnette wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:41 pm
Lennyz1988 wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:19 pm
mrburnette wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:11 pm

PS: I know the Blue Pill is a very popular and cheap Chinese board and many of the new users are coming in using that product exclusively. However, I would strongly recommend the purchase of a BAITE Maple Mini clone just for sanity testing issues.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/leaflab ... 67476.html
(you may be able to find the "Baite" a $1 less if you extend your search)
Could I give you some feedback?

Maybe it's even better to recommend this board:

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/STM32F10 ... eLevelAB=5

It can be bought preloaded with the STMDuino bootloader and it has a micro usb port instead of a mini usb port.
Yes, a nice board.
But the entire idea is to have a known-working board that matches the (older Maple Mini) documentation. The clone I referenced does that, button for button ;) About the only significant difference is that the BAITE board is 2-layer and the original Leaflabs' board was a 4-layer design.

Ray
Ah I understand :)
RogerClark wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:04 pm
Its interestng that that these boards are now available with the booloader prs-installed.

I did email RobotDyn and suggest this, but they are not very communative ( possibky because of the language barrier or for cultural reasons), and they did not send a follow uo email to let me know they actually now sell with the bootloader


I have 4 of their boards and they seem fine, but the crystals needed better fixing, and they failed to send jump links.

I complained about these issues and they said they were resolving the crystal issue and the next batch of PCBs would have solder pads for fiximg, so it would interesting to see if you have that revision
I think it's currently one of the best versions to get when someone is a beginner.

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